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Plans unveiled for Wrexham bus and tram service

Published date: 03 August 2011 |
Published by: Phil Robinson


 

TRAMS, a vintage bus or even hotelier Stephanie Booth’s famous landtrain have all been suggested by councillors to bring shoppers back into the heart of Wrexham.

Members of the council’s environment and regeneration scrutiny committee have been given an update on a plan to re-introduce buses into High Street to help stimulate local trade.

The council recently carried out a consultation exercise which showed there was broad support for the idea from town centre traders.

But commercial bus operators sounded out on providing a service were less enthusiastic, highlighting various problems such as coping with traffic congestion and narrow roads - the same issues which saw buses withdrawn a number of years ago.

To overcome these difficulties officers have suggested a programme of engineering work to redesign the roads around High Street.

But committee members came up with their own novel suggestions for bringing in shoppers.

Cllr Ted George said: “Bristol is introducing tram-like vehicles into its town centre. If we did that in Wrexham we could then perhaps link High Street directly with the main bus station.”

Cllr Phil Wynn, said: “The latest estimate we have for doing the engineering work is £100,000.

“If we are going to spend that sort of money maybe we could consider a circular minibus that could pick up people from various points around the town and bring them into High Street.”

Cllr Geoff Lowe said he would support bringing trams to the town centre, but suggested a vintage bus was a cheaper and more achievable option.

He said: “I would certainly support a tram because we need to encourage people to use public transport and more importantly because of the general downturn in trade we need to get people back into the town centre, but at this difficult financial time it is perhaps a hurdle too high.

“But a vintage bus would be much more achievable - it would be a novelty and an attraction to the town and is certainly worthy of come consideration.”

Referring to the vehicle once used for promotional purposes by Stephanie Booth’s Llangollen Hotels before the group went into administration recently, Cllr Paul Pemberton, said: “Up until a few weeks ago there was landtrain parked behind the Wynnstay Hotel, which is now surplus to requirements. How about using that?”

Lead member for transport Cllr David Bithell said: “I’m not sure about a vintage bus or a landtrain.

“The idea of a circular bus was discussed at our last meeting with town centre traders and they were quite receptive.

“We will have to look at the feasibility of all these ideas.”

The committee called for a further report to be presented to their November meeting.

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  1. Posted by: sandrobe2001 at 10:15 on 03 August 2011 Report

    I know that Wrexham did have trams through the town in the earlier part of the 20th Century BUT then, there were few cars around. Does the Council not realise the upheavel to roads and pavements would likely put what shops we have left out of business while the works were carried out. Yes Manchester and other large cities accommodate trams but Wrexham is not yet a city and hopefully, will never become one.

  2. Posted by: trendyvic at 10:30 on 03 August 2011 Report

    It is August, the silly season.

  3. Posted by: Boycs at 11:03 on 03 August 2011 Report

    Take the example of edinburgh as why we should avoid trams.

  4. Posted by: wrexhamafc at 11:11 on 03 August 2011 Report

    They have spectacularly missed the point. There are very few shops in the 'heart' of the town that people want to visit,due to council planning, everything is now in the tin sheds on the outskirts,or in the Eagle Meadow centre.If they had stopped such developments, the town would still be thriving,not PoundTown as it is now.

  5. Posted by: ROland Cleth at 11:13 on 03 August 2011 Report

    Personally, I'd reckon that fewer pound shops, fewer charity shops and fewer boarded-up shops would probably play more of a part in bringing shoppers back into the heart of Wrexham.

  6. Posted by: InMyOpinion at 12:26 on 03 August 2011 Report

    Wrexham is too small for street trams... Bristol City is ten times bigger tham Wrexham, quite honestly the council have messed things up that much it would cost millions to sort out.

  7. Posted by: bornacorn at 12:37 on 03 August 2011 Report

    If done right, a tram system (well, following the old route), using heritage style trams, could become an attraction in itself. Look at the Llangollen or Bala Lake railways. It 's just a shame the council tore down the old tram depot a few years ago.

  8. Posted by: bornacorn at 12:38 on 03 August 2011 Report

    OR They should buy a few golf cart trains, basically an elongated golf cart seating ten, and a carriage seating another ten behind it, and drive them around the pedestrianised areas. They're really popular in large hotel resorts.

  9. Posted by: leewxm at 14:01 on 03 August 2011 Report

    A day out on the Wxm tram, "To your left we have Wilko's and now is B&M Bargains, to your right Pound world. Here we are in the original town centre, now a ghost town. Ok, listen to the radio while we take a drive to the wasteland we decided to place the latest shops at..." I like the August Silly Season comment! Put shops back in the town centre and allow us to park conveniently to be able to run & out of the butchers & bakery. Until then, thank god for the farm shops!

  10. Posted by: les parry at 15:52 on 03 August 2011 Report

    High street did not have a congestion problem until the stupid council decided to narrow it down to "Country Lane" status. Surely the easy answer would be to reinstate it to its original width!!

  11. Posted by: Welsh Nash at 16:46 on 03 August 2011 Report

    Eagles Meadow is the new "town centre" now and already has an excellent car park, free bicycle parking and bus stops just outside. It's got a quality grocery store, department store, jewellers, pharmacy, cinema plus many other shops. What more do we need? And it's very well serviced by all modes of transport. We should enjoy what we've already got.

  12. Posted by: stella8pack at 16:47 on 03 August 2011 Report

    The council And there Bright Plans City status, Trams What next .HO HO HO

  13. Posted by: sandrobe2001 at 17:10 on 03 August 2011 Report

    I know that Wrexham Council demolished the Town Hall and the Hand Inn, which stood at the top of Town Hill in 1940, widening the Hill. If this widening had been made worth the waste of the Town Hall and the Hand Inn and High Street had been later spared the widened pavements and the cobbles, congestion would have been avoided.

  14. Posted by: Rubymilkychops at 18:07 on 03 August 2011 Report

    Edinburghs tram scheme is an overdue,overpriced farce. Wrexhams trams terminated in Brook St or "The Entertainment Quarter" as the Council prefered to call it during the roadworks there. The tramlines are still under the road in a lot of the old route. Johnstown Tram depot is sadly gone though. Would be an expensive white elephant.

  15. Posted by: bornacorn at 18:36 on 03 August 2011 Report

    They preserved the site through images though, like Dickens wants to do with the Miner Rescue Centre - http://www.peoplescollection.co.uk/Item/4710-johnstown-tram-depot

  16. Posted by: ericcartman1 at 19:37 on 03 August 2011 Report

    What drugs are our Cllrs taking now? - mushrooms? Trams are just far too expensive to begin with, can you really see WAG stumping up the cash? Vintage buses? not DDA complient so the service to help people with poor mobility would just not work. What did Mark Pritchard propose, flying saucers or flying pigs?

  17. Posted by: a cahill at 22:03 on 03 August 2011 Report

    Was anything significant or attainable proposed in Wrexham today ?

  18. Posted by: ericcartman1 at 23:45 on 03 August 2011 Report

    Free speach for the dumb

  19. Posted by: sheefag at 12:32 on 04 August 2011 Report

    Once again no mention of the problem we have of Trams screaming at double the national speed limit through Penyffordd - I feel fury.....real fury

  20. Posted by: Democracy at 16:28 on 04 August 2011 Report

    “Bristol is introducing tram-like vehicles into its town centre. If we did that in Wrexham we could then perhaps link High Street directly with the main bus station.” If Ted George is saying things like this now, what will he be saying come election time? If opportunism was a sport, then Ted George would be world champion!!!

  21. Posted by: a cahill at 23:01 on 04 August 2011 Report

    Democracy...by election time there won't be any problems in Wrexham...housing, transport, education sorted with no stone left unturned and no problem too small to be addressed...but I do wonder if Cllrs Dutton/George/Pritchard realise that they are admitting that their collective decision making has failed the town and its people...or maybe they think we are too thick to notice that fact

  22. Posted by: Democracy at 11:16 on 05 August 2011 Report

    As Ted George is not part of the council executive, it is not in his interest to paint the council in good light. But with only 9 months until election, I think it is safe to assume that the more bizarre the comments from individual councillors, the more concerned they are about holding on to their seats.

 


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