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Market traders slam bag charge

Published date: 04 October 2011 |
Published by: Rebecca Cole


 

MARKET traders and owners of small businesses have slammed the introduction of a charge on carrier bags.

A 5p charge was implemented by the Welsh Government on Saturday on single-use carrier bags.

Council trading standards officers will be enforcing the change and part of the proceeds will be donated to good causes

But Rob Clarke, chairman of the Wrexham branch of the National Market Traders Federation, described the move as another blow to small traders.

He believes the move could increase thefts from stalls and alienate shoppers from outside Wales.

He said: “I appreciate the need to reduce the amount of bags we use and I can see the point of big supermarkets who give out loads of bags all the time.

“But it’s just yet another thing for us to worry about at a time when we’re struggling anyway.”

He said many stallholders were struggling with the details of the new rules. Mr Clarke said: “Nobody’s very clear on the legislation and what little information we have had seems to be very muddled.

“Because people aren’t going to want to buy bags, they’re going to be walking around with things in their arms.

“We’re going to have to be much more eagle-eyed to spot what’s not been paid for.”
Mr Clarke said there is also confusion over what businesses can do with the proceeds.

He wants to donate to Wrexham Supporters Trust but is unsure if he can.

He added: “It’s going to mean more paperwork and I’m worried it will alienate shoppers from England who won’t know about the change and won’t want to shop here.”

Some shop assistants in Flintshire are bearing the brunt of customer anger.

Helen Jones, of Trade Secret in Mold, said: “On Saturday most people brought their own bags but the ones that didn’t weren’t very happy at all.

“It was like it was our fault. One even said we’d be charging them to breathe next. We did try to tell them it wasn’t us personally, it was the Welsh Government and to help the environment, but they still weren’t happy.”

But Antony Fecci, manager of A. Fecci newsagents, Mold, said the charge had been working well.

“There’s no problem with it, most people bring their own carrier bags with them.

“Our turnover of carriers has gone right down which is good because it’s what we want.”

Andrea Roberts, customer services manager at Sainsbury’s in Flint, said: “It was really good over the weekend.

“Customers were fine about it. One pence from the five pence goes to our local charity of the year, Flint RNLI. We had a good response but we didn’t think we would.”

A spokesman for Asda, which has two stores in Wrexham, said: “We’ve been doing a lot of work in preparation for the change and gave out free ‘bags for life’ all last week to get people started and raise awareness which customers really appreciated.”

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  1. Posted by: a cahill at 11:14 on 04 October 2011 Report

    I often wonder why they were called carrier bags...for the most part anything over 5lb would snap the handles or burst the bottom...anyway a backpack prevents arriving home with arms feeling like Gus Gorilla...or near white finger syndrome

  2. Posted by: sandrobe2001 at 12:08 on 04 October 2011 Report

    I'm not surprised at the negative responses from both traders and customers. Why does the WAG think up a law or whatever, then implement it without considering the likely impact, for the consumer or the trader. A typical case of 'Take first, then sort the answer to the questions'. We were in Asda last week, but we didn't get asked about bags or given any free bags for life.

  3. Posted by: thistle at 12:56 on 04 October 2011 Report

    Can't they ask people to bring them their old carrier bags and give them out for free? Some small shops have been doing this for ages.

  4. Posted by: InMyOpinion at 14:50 on 04 October 2011 Report

    This new law is losing all traders money, some shops I know of have lost important sales because of it, with some customers who have bought goods are asked if they would like a bag, do not like being charged an extra 5p on top of the money they have spent in the shop, some shops are swallowing the cost just to keep the customers... others are suffering because they cannot afford to do the same.

  5. Posted by: hen ddraig at 16:58 on 04 October 2011 Report

    WAG ran an extensive consultation on this before passing it. If people chose not to respond they have only themselves to blame. It is totally stupid for a body which has no tax raising powers to introduce a national charge with only a guideline that the proceeds be donated to good causes.

  6. Posted by: WelshWitch at 17:21 on 04 October 2011 Report

    I went to Chester to shop rather than pay for the bags. Another blow to Wrexhams economy as im sure others will do the same. My daughter wouldnt shop in Tescos with me as she said she felt like a shoplifter! Sometime things are an impulse purchase, and you dont have a bag to protect your purchases, especially if its clothes or small items. Maybe they should try and cull the excess of plastic bags which come though my door claiming to be from charities! I have had 3 today!!!

  7. Posted by: nomad at 18:10 on 04 October 2011 Report

    well that was a logical thing to do welchbitch ,it must of worked out cheaper for you to shop in chester than buy 5p carrier bags,and it must be horible if you feel like a shoplifter ,or do you look like a shop lifter you sound very paranoid about every thing even charities have you ever thought about getting a hobby or a life

  8. Posted by: liberty1 at 19:33 on 04 October 2011 Report

    It doesnt matter if you agree with this or not its a fact of life in Wales so if anyone is going to a shop take a bag , dont moan at the people who work there as I saw one snotty cow doing on Monday.

  9. Posted by: nomad at 21:14 on 04 October 2011 Report

    ive been taken a bag to the shops for years but a couple of years ago my wife p-assed her driving test so now she goes there her self, ha ha ha ha

  10. Posted by: shellybombelly at 21:14 on 04 October 2011 Report

    I went to macy ds today orderd sum food an they asked me if i.wanfed a bag chargd at 5p i thought they were jokin i fink its a discrace why should we recycle if they dnt do us any favers bet it dusnt go to charity.asif the guvament dnt av enuf ov are my as it is....

  11. Posted by: wxm_bsp at 00:15 on 05 October 2011 Report

    What I don't understand is why we still have to pay 5p to shops that use paper bags? This charge was supposed to be due to the length of time that the plastic bags take to break down!

  12. Posted by: InMyOpinion at 05:22 on 05 October 2011 Report

    Another point is people dont trust the supermarkets and some shops... as the council stated... the law is going to be hard to police... its all based on trust.... yea like you can trust the likes of Tesco , Asda etc... wether the money does go to charity or is swallowed up in admin costs is to be seen... and yes, if you need to save a measly 5p take your own... or shop in England ... who are also considering charging for bags....but not yet.

  13. Posted by: lavem at 13:10 on 06 October 2011 Report

    I can't believe how irrational people can be. The answer is so simple, take your own bag(s) or pay 5p. Hardly a large sum of money considering how much you probably just spent to fill the bag in the first place, never mind the fuel costs of driving in to England to avoid the charge. The effort of taking your own bag is minimal.

  14. Posted by: shasi5 at 16:01 on 06 October 2011 Report

    i wonder if they should now come under the "sale of goods act" and be fit for purpose. a bag i paid 5p for the other day fell apart leaving my frozen shopping on the ground. i wouldnt mind but the shop didnt have any strong bags for life to buy. good job i wasnt carrying any glass in it or would have had a mess on the floor. fast foods too having to pay 5p for the paper bag to take out - you cant really put a greasy burger in with your normal shopping can you.

  15. Posted by: lindopski at 16:03 on 06 October 2011 Report

    Crazy how now 50 years on the Hippies have finally become 'the man' they were always against. This is a great opportunity however to get a tartan trolley - whoop :D:D

  16. Posted by: shasi5 at 17:40 on 06 October 2011 Report

    i wonder if they should now come under the "sale of goods act" and be fit for purpose. a bag i paid 5p for the other day fell apart leaving my frozen shopping on the ground. i wouldnt mind but the shop didnt have any strong bags for life to buy. good job i wasnt carrying any glass in it or would have had a mess on the floor. fast foods too having to pay 5p for the paper bag to take out - you cant really put a greasy burger in with your normal shopping can you.

  17. Posted by: shasi5 at 18:32 on 06 October 2011 Report

    i wonder if they should now come under the "sale of goods act" and be fit for purpose. a bag i paid 5p for the other day fell apart leaving my frozen shopping on the ground. i wouldnt mind but the shop didnt have any strong bags for life to buy. good job i wasnt carrying any glass in it or would have had a mess on the floor. fast foods too having to pay 5p for the paper bag to take out - you cant really put a greasy burger in with your normal shopping can you.

  18. Posted by: tdhprestatyn at 14:13 on 07 October 2011 Report

    I recently submitted a Freedom of Information request asking whether the charge was subject to VAT, and then what the governments estimated income would be. The Welsh government responded saying they expected the tax take to be £600000, out of sales of £3000000. So thats £3000000 taken out of our pockets, and over half a million bounty for the government.

 


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